God May Give You The Victory, But You May Still Have To Go Through The Battle

by Discerning Dad June 26, 2021

This is a copy of the blog I wrote at my friend’s site- here is the link, please follow that blog as well

http://scottroberts.org/god-may-give-you-the-victory-but-you-still-have-to-go-through-the-battle/

I often wonder, when watching sports, what happens when both teams pray to God for victory. Does the team with the most faith or those that are closest to God with the least amount of sin in their life have their prayer answered? It’s also interesting to hear when someone is interviewed after a sports win that they give credit to God, however do they recognize God as well when they lose?

God gives us strength and abilities; in fact the very breath we breathe is a gift from God. God is sovereign, omnipresent, and omnipotent, however He is not omnicausal, meaning there is a measure of free will at play. Christian denominations like to debate over the level of free will we have as humans, but the truth is that we will never fully understand the interplay between God’s sovereignty and our free will.

What would happen if a sports team stayed on the bench and did not participate in the game after they prayed for God to give them victory? A guaranteed loss of course! Praying is not an escape from our responsibilities. Praying should align us with God’s will. The truth is that we will not be able to control everything. In the areas where we need a miraculous intervention from God, it is ok to ask. We can come boldy before the throne of grace (Heb 4:16) and present our requests to God with prayer and supplication (Phil 4:6).

If my children asked me for a trip to Disneyland, it is my power to grant that. They do not have the funds or the transportation to get there on their own. However, if my children asked me to clean their rooms, I would promptly clarify that they have it within their power to clean their room and that it should be done sooner than later instead of trying to get someone else to do it for them!

Reading the book of Joshua, it is clear that God gave the Israelites victory and yet they still had to go through the battle. The Israelites had casualties in battle and often would lose their blessings if they did not follow the commands of God (see the story of Achan in Joshua 7). If the Israelites stayed where they were or did not march around Jericho 7 times in obedience to God, they would not receive the victory God promised. God also placed a limit on the victory He gave them because of disobedience. We learn in Judges 2:3 that God did not drive out the remaining inhabitants of the land in order to test Israel because Israel preferred to intermingle and intermarry instead of being set apart as God commanded.

It’s important that we stay the course in areas God has already directed us to be in. We don’t need a new revelation from God every day when our objective is to “stay the course.” God will usually make it clear, if we are listening, when the time comes that we need to move. In areas that we can control with our time and talent, we should look to be a Godly influence to those around us. You don’t need to pray IF you should give, but HOW MUCH you should give!

We can ask for prayer and strength but often God will not remove the battle from us.


For example, a health challenge. God may heal through a doctor; I believe God still heals miraculously today as well. Even if we have to go through treatments and surgery, God deserves all the glory. God has the right to do what He wants and when He wants without our complaining. Our life is not our own and the more we hold on tightly to it without giving everything to God, the harder it will be when we lose control… because we never had it to begin with.

God loves to give good gifts to His children as well and wants to partner with us to do according to His will. Don’t neglect prayer, it is vital and the best way we can align our will with God’s. When God does take you through victory, do not be silent on giving Him the glory, for all glory is His and His alone!

Tim Ferrara

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2 thoughts on “God May Give You The Victory, But You May Still Have To Go Through The Battle”

  1. Reblogged this on Zero Lift-Off and commented:
    This is an excellent description of how wrong it can be to not live up to our obligations and responsibilities for the Lord! I want to add my thoughts here that I had written earlier today for another reblog; which hits the nail right on the head of what this article says as I see it.

    All Christians that say they are against these things; such as abortion, same sex marriage, transsexuality and many other radical departures from human behaviors or practices that were tried and tested through the millennia and even more importantly forbidden in the Holy Scriptures; but want to remain placid and leave it all up to the Almighty, are the true “Lukewarm” wishy-washy that God tells us in Holy Scriptures, is what he will spit out! Many of them would rather play games and sit around letting the world go to hell in a hand basket than commit and be ready to fight for Jesus Christ as the martyrs and saints did or still do!

    They don’t want to do the work required to truly carry their own cross here, but, like the idea of letting others do all the heavy lifting, and that is why this world is in the worst state it has ever been; with a modern generation over many decades now, that have been more interested in self-aggrandizement, materialism and pleasure seeking; than anything else. So materialistic and vain; not seeing the forest for the trees, or even caring as they do their “own thing” and “get all they can while they can!” Don’t we not see this in our leaders and those with the most power and influence; in spades? They serve the beast this materialistic corrupted system and Satan without a doubt; and then the citizenry are falling into alignment with that same way of thinking sucking up whatever is dished out to them just as we have seen with the false pandemic! No ancient time or period even comes close in comparison to the evil which is exponentially increasing daily! Many prefer to gloss things over with delusional indifference or even self-righteousness and think they have done right; when they are so wrong!

    Revelation 3:16 “15 I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! 16So because you are lukewarm— neither hot nor cold— I am about to vomit you out of My mouth! 17You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked.…”

    2 Timothy 4:3 “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions”

    I’ve witnessed it time and again how so many on this internet sitting and just coasting along talking all day about nothing that really proves their willingness to fight for the good and what is right; truly righteous individuals are extremely hard to find on this social media! They often either play games seeking some kind of attention or distraction and want adulation as in followers; sometimes they are forming their little clubs where they converse about things; getting them nowhere and more importantly doing “nothing” about the horrors that riddle our societies.

    1 John 3:8-10 “Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.”

    Not taking a stand in defense of the innocent and against all the calamities of our corrupted system all around us, Ways of the World, is not righteous or loving one’s brothers and sisters! It’s become devil may care!

    The basic truth is very concise and clear and there is no excuse to not see it and live it! The prophecies tell us in the Book of Truth what will come and how it will unfold; so to say we are not aware and so therefore must leave it all up to the Lord, sort of letting the chips fall where they may, because we have no say in it; is a LIE! Discerning power is available through the Holy Ghost the Comforter, who will reveal all things needed to those who truly are righteous and worthy in the eyes of our Savior! These fools who say I just mind my business and do my quiet act in my own little corner or way; are not carrying any cross, they are phony and cowards hiding behind fools.

    “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” 1 Peter 1:14-16

    Many people are being lulled into this captive mode of thinking, how if we just go along to get along it will all work out fine and dandy! Not going to happen, this world is falling away quickly and will End. So, “when the going gets tough the tough get going” not sitting like old fools in a sewing circle and hoping for the best! It actually takes work, pain and suffering to get the job done, as well as fight when it is required! If people back during the “Great Generation” mostly thought as many people do today, the tyrants and murderers would have taken over the world many years ago! And, now they have the best chance in all of time to do so, as we can rest assured this is Communist China’s absolute goal; with people like Biden and Trudeau appeasing the evil Dragon, to allow the slow takeover of free nations, while many depots within our nations have been bought off and sold their souls not only to the beast system; but to Satan! The CCP rules with an iron inhuman fist and are true atheists not caring one iota about “God or His children” only “lust for power and complete control” is what they care about!

    I believe that sister Lisa explains quite well in the following!
    This from “What is “Righteous Anger”?”
    “How can I know whether I’m feeling that or just being a hothead?”
    Lisa Harper (christianitytoday)

    “I grew up believing anger was a “bad” emotion. So I’ve needed several years of Christian counseling even to admit I get angry, much less to learn I can express those feelings righteously! Thankfully, God’s Word sets clear parameters for getting peeved.

    What does God say about this? The bad news for hotheads is that Scripture contains many more verses warning believers against blowing their cool than verses advocating such behavior. The writer of Proverbs connects anger with foolishness: “Fools quickly show that they are upset, but the wise ignore insults” (Proverbs 12:16, NCV). And the apostle Paul recommends letting our heavenly Father fight our battles: “My friends, do not try to punish others when they wrong you, but wait for God to punish them with his anger. It is written: ‘I will punish those who do wrong; I will repay them,’ says the Lord” (Romans 12:19, NCV).

    Sometimes, however, God allows his people to fuss and remain faithful. Such is the case when King David furrows his brow and huffs:
    “God, I wish you would kill the wicked!
    Get away from me, you murderers!
    They say evil things about you.
    Your enemies use your name thoughtlessly.
    Lord, I hate those who hate you;
    I hate those who rise up against you.
    I feel only hate for them;
    they are my enemies” (Psalm 139:19–22, NCV).

    Or when Nehemiah gets upset after learning about the wealthy Israelites’ exploitation of the poor: “Then I was very angry when I had heard … these words” (Nehemiah 5:6, NASB).

    What’s noteworthy in these situations is that David called down curses on sworn enemies of God, and Nehemiah directed his irritation at the “haves” repressing the “have-nots.” Both men were angry because of ungodly people or activities.

    And Jesus expressed anger—at the Pharisees who exhibited such hard hearts, and at the crass commercialism that sullied the temple (; )—to convey extreme displeasure over sin. Those reasons are the key to righteous anger.

    How does this affect me? As Christ-followers, we’re totally appropriate getting upset over sin, too. Evils such as abuse, racism, pornography, and child sex trafficking should incense us.

    But no matter how reprehensible the people or activities we’re condemning, we still aren’t justified to sin in our responses: “When you are angry, do not sin, and be sure to stop being angry before the end of the day” (Ephesians 4:26, NCV). Those of us with confrontational personalities might want to ask ourselves the question, Is my motive to be right or to be righteous? before ripping into the offending parties.

    Such considerations also help us be pokey in getting peeved: “Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God” (James 1:19–20, ESV). Instead of replying immediately, simply counting to ten before reacting usually leads to much better results in a contentious situation.

    Then after we take offense, we should take redemptive action. Christians must get involved with organizations working to free children from slavery and volunteer at shelters working to protect battered women. We must lead the charge against hatred and oppression and cruelty!

    “Ultimately, if our outrage results in restoring people into loving, healing relationships with Jesus, it’s righteous anger.”

    Lisa Harper has a Masters in Theology with an emphasis in biblical studies from Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. She’s a sought-after speaker and has written several books, including Holding Out for a Hero: A New Spin on Hebrews (Tyndale) and What the Bible Is All About for Women: A Book of Devotions (Regal). Visit her at http://www.lisaharper.net.

    Waking people up from their distractions or even apathy is my goal in this world; as I can speak and write what I must; to do so! Because you and I know that what is going on in this world today is exponentially far worse than all those sins and wrongs that were committed by the Pharisees that Jesus actually reprimanded and condemned! What do we think would be His reaction if here now to deal directly with this horror! It’s certainly coming and will be the End!

    God bless and keep in constant communion with our Lord Jesus Christ and heavenly Father through the Holy Ghost. Amen.
    Brother in Christ Jesus,
    Lawrence Morra III

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